that will be steve's problem. fund the fund, pension funds, that outside money would be barred, probably from giving money to somebody that has been guilty of a 10 be 5. liz: redemptions? >> the journal said a billion, but i say massive. i stick with what i wrote. you don't know. he could convince people to stay. liz: trying that? >> what i reported, the initial tip was there, okay, i didn't report this monday, but a background, the initial tip, and got this with having wine in l.a.. liz: where? >> i was in the wine country. a great little town out there in wine country outside l.a.. liz: thank you. >> the initial cafe in the movie "sideways," i ate and drank there a lot of the the initial tip was steve cohen himself was going out and making the rounds telling people don't pull out, basically giving the sales pitch. i heard that was -- they said that was not the case, that it was -- though they confirmed that their managers have been making the rounds, senior management team making the rounds trying to prevent peo